# Do we need to include batchnorm and activation after conv2d transpose?

Hello, just a conceptual question. I see that when we use conv2d it’s usually followed by batchnorm and activation. Is this also true for conv2d transpose? If yes, is it because of the same logic as conv2d transpose?

Goal: I’m trying to stack

self.up1 = nn.ConvTranspose2d(in_channels=out3, out_channels=out2, kernel_size=3, padding=1,